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    Default New to this. Now I'm nervous.

    I'm very new to this. I met one girl last year and it wasn't a good experience. Very rushed. I was on a trip in Las Vegas a couple of weeks ago and decided to try again. This time it was really good. I decided I should give it a go again when I got home. So I looked at a load of ads on Backpage and emailed a few girls. This one seemed nice and nearby, so I set up an appointment.

    Now I'm worried. How do I know it's not a police sting? Is that a silly thing to worry about? I found one review for her on this site, but let's face it, one review could be anything. She could have written it herself.

    I guess I just need some reassurance and advice.

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    Default New also

    Hey I'm new also, but there are a couple of things we can do. If she has any nude photos, she's not a cop because cops can't take off their clothes. Also, one time a massage girl asked me to feel her tits before we started, since cops can't engage in sexual activity. You could ask her to grab your junk to prove she's not a cop. Or maybe I'm just crazy...

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    By the way... I had nothing to worry about, and she was WONDERFUL. I couldn't have picked any better.

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    What i do is google the escorts number and it will reveal if they use fake pictures or if im lucky it leads me to a tosluts forum review

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    Default cops.

    Just stay away from discussing money over the phone or in texts... they should bring it up then its entrappment if you agree and get busted. Never ask how much. Don't worry... before you get down she'll let you know.

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    You don't want to say anything that might be considered soliciting when you get there. I usually drive around the hotel or apartment and look for any suspicious cars especially cop cars. My favorite provider greeted me at the door the first time with no bottom on so it made my life easier. If anything feels off then just leave.

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    Default 1st time

    I also had my first experience recently. Although she was gorgeous, it was kind of weird. First of all we had to wait 15 minutes outside an apartment for her scheduler to bring the key. Good for conversation, but I was expecting to immediately walk into her room with her in lingerie.

    This was a P411 gal with good reviews, but I don't like the way it went down. Inside her attitude as more like, you tell me what to do and I will comply. I was hoping for more of a GFE. I am into asians, but this one was very western and I thought she was gonna have more exotic characteristics besides her looks.

    Oh well, live and learn.

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    Default Bp-is scary,but girls gotta start somewhere

    Quote Originally Posted by easyfriend33 View Post
    I'm very new to this. I met one girl last year and it wasn't a good experience. Very rushed. I was on a trip in Las Vegas a couple of weeks ago and decided to try again. This time it was really good. I decided I should give it a go again when I got home. So I looked at a load of ads on Backpage and emailed a few girls. This one seemed nice and nearby, so I set up an appointment.

    Now I'm worried. How do I know it's not a police sting? Is that a silly thing to worry about? I found one review for her on this site, but let's face it, one review could be anything. She could have written it herself.

    I guess I just need some reassurance and advice.

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    Remember don't talk about rates or services.....that's the most important part-but ya should make sure you know what her rate is before you get there.
    Don't make it ovious you are driving around the hotel- the staff will notice you & it brings attention to her room, the same if she is in an apt. definetly don't go driving around- nosey neighbors. Jus pull in & park, you can look around as you are driving there. Le is going to park at least a block away, from what I watch on tv, they always have more than 10of them waiting, so they will be kinda ovious but not right at her apt. or hotel parking lot. This is a big mistake guys make & when they drive around the hotel parking lot-the staff gets suspicious...One of my clients one time, the maid had walked up & asked if she could help him. In my opinion, he should have said he was turning around or had come to the wrong hotel or anything then driven off & not come to my room, cuz you know they immediately went to the front desk & I of course had problems with the hotel after that....
    Anyways, relax.....if it's le, they will bring up services & rates over the phone or immediatley after you arrive, escorting in most states are legal- you are alowed to see an escort for a private body rub &/or maturbation show & I'm sure that's all that your going for, so there's no reason to get nervous... If she starts telling ya she will do sexual stuff as soon as ya get there- that's a red flag.....
    The same with you guys- if ya walk in the door & start asking for her to gaurantee you will get some illegal service she will boot you out, or she will keep your donation thinking you are just wanting some dirty fantasy talk while she is masturbating in front of you.....
    I think having the review sites out here & forums are giving everyone a false sense of security.... so if ya read somone's reviews, ya shouldn't have to ask her much of anything.....
    I do have a question- since your inexperienced, why don't ya just choose a lady that has more reviews?
    Another thing that would help is when ya choose a girl whose hour is $250 or more, then you can have the confidence that your getting; 1) an experienced provider, 2) She isn't going to be cracked out 3) Usually all the menu items that are generally looked for are going to be availible 4) She isn't going to scam you or call you back after the session harrassing ya or asking ya for help with anything 5) if discretion is important to you, usually a higher rate means she will screen & protect your personal information (a lower rate means alot of traffic, she's taking risks, your info would be in her phone while she's taking these chances)......These aren't rules or facts- they are generalized from what I have found out through my experiences & talking with people.....I've known several men who I continue to chat with & they have all told me that the lower rate girls all call them back asking for more money & some have told me they had items come up missing during the session. It's info that they dnt put in a review because they fear backlash
    One more thing- when le is doing stings I've heard they advertise a lower rate- they know tooo high keeps them from getting phone calls.
    Good luck sweety, don't let your anxiety keep ya from having a good time, but let it insist you keep your senses up.

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    Great tips here, Thanks a lot for providing some insight for newcomers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PazuzuPacifier View Post
    Great tips here, Thanks a lot for providing some insight for newcomers.
    Agree, as a newbie myself this and the FAQ have been most helpful.

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    Use search to check pics. Using someone else's pics is a red flag for me.

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    Glad I found this site. This thread was super helpful! Still nervous as all he'll though...

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    never done these so im kind of nervous about it too.

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    Default Some tips

    Use Tineye or Google pics to search photos for fakes.
    Paste phone numbers into google to see what that reveals.
    Try to see ladies with some review history.
    Never provide deposits prior to seeing someone.
    Avoid seedy or rundown neighborhoods....


    Happy hunting!

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    Default A very insight

    Quote Originally Posted by justalittlefreaky View Post
    Remember don't talk about rates or services.....that's the most important part-but ya should make sure you know what her rate is before you get there.
    Don't make it ovious you are driving around the hotel- the staff will notice you & it brings attention to her room, the same if she is in an apt. definetly don't go driving around- nosey neighbors. Jus pull in & park, you can look around as you are driving there. Le is going to park at least a block away, from what I watch on tv, they always have more than 10of them waiting, so they will be kinda ovious but not right at her apt. or hotel parking lot. This is a big mistake guys make & when they drive around the hotel parking lot-the staff gets suspicious...One of my clients one time, the maid had walked up & asked if she could help him. In my opinion, he should have said he was turning around or had come to the wrong hotel or anything then driven off & not come to my room, cuz you know they immediately went to the front desk & I of course had problems with the hotel after that....
    Anyways, relax.....if it's le, they will bring up services & rates over the phone or immediatley after you arrive, escorting in most states are legal- you are alowed to see an escort for a private body rub &/or maturbation show & I'm sure that's all that your going for, so there's no reason to get nervous... If she starts telling ya she will do sexual stuff as soon as ya get there- that's a red flag.....
    The same with you guys- if ya walk in the door & start asking for her to gaurantee you will get some illegal service she will boot you out, or she will keep your donation thinking you are just wanting some dirty fantasy talk while she is masturbating in front of you.....
    I think having the review sites out here & forums are giving everyone a false sense of security.... so if ya read somone's reviews, ya shouldn't have to ask her much of anything.....
    I do have a question- since your inexperienced, why don't ya just choose a lady that has more reviews?
    Another thing that would help is when ya choose a girl whose hour is $250 or more, then you can have the confidence that your getting; 1) an experienced provider, 2) She isn't going to be cracked out 3) Usually all the menu items that are generally looked for are going to be availible 4) She isn't going to scam you or call you back after the session harrassing ya or asking ya for help with anything 5) if discretion is important to you, usually a higher rate means she will screen & protect your personal information (a lower rate means alot of traffic, she's taking risks, your info would be in her phone while she's taking these chances)......These aren't rules or facts- they are generalized from what I have found out through my experiences & talking with people.....I've known several men who I continue to chat with & they have all told me that the lower rate girls all call them back asking for more money & some have told me they had items come up missing during the session. It's info that they dnt put in a review because they fear backlash
    One more thing- when le is doing stings I've heard they advertise a lower rate- they know tooo high keeps them from getting phone calls.
    Good luck sweety, don't let your anxiety keep ya from having a good time, but let it insist you keep your senses up.

    This information is so good to keep in mind specially for people like us who just want to have a good time and try some good excitement in life. Life is short to be worrying about things that keep us for our enjoyment/entertainment. Just always keep your senses guard up and protect yourself.

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    Default wow'zers... there are some green horns in this forum...

    ... Hard to remember when I saw my first provider.. 200+ later, lucky if I can remember the last.. lol

    That (sarcastic) remark aside...

    #1 - BP is full of scamers and fake photos. Someone mentioned google images. DO IT. IT will save your bacon often.

    #2- Google the phone number. You'd be surprised how many girls change ad, change pics yet use the same number.

    #3- Log into facebook, search the phone number. You'd be surprised how many girls can be found that way. AND how many pimps can be found the same way....

    #4- as far as providers go, if you do the above, you should come up with multiple ads for the same lady across numerous ad/review sites. If you do not, be weary. Either she's knew, hiding a past or just a new phone.

    MOST IMPORTANT: create a hobby persona. Get a tossable phone, google voice (and set it up correctly) and a hobby email address.(do not put your real name on the account) Keep all of your personal stuff, personal. Don't get sappy and tell the girl everything under the sun. IT WILL BITE YOU...

    As far as LE is concerned. Don't fool yourself, if you get caught in the room with a hooker, you are going to be cited or arrested. Regardless of how careful you are. Always show to the incall early enough to park and watch the surroundings. LE is after the multiple offenses they can find. i.e. do not see girls who "party" and take drugs as part of the payment. If a girl gives you her address right out the gate, be wary..

    Just like the girls, you have to develop a sixth sense for the hobby. it is daunting, i understand. If you are new and are in this for the pleasure, vs attempting to chew down a girls rate and lowball her into providing what she doesn't... you'll be fine. Stick to reviewed girls

    Just my two cents.. what do I know, right?

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    If you don't mind me piggy backing on this thread I'd like to ask on what to do when seeing a provider who doesn't advertise prices and services in her ad.

    Let's say a Google image search and a phone number search doesn't turn up any red flags BUT there are also no reviews of her available her and elsewhere so how do you know how much to bring? I'm weary of bringing $200+ to someone I've never met because if she turns out to be a rob then I've lost all that money.

    So how much money do you bring with you to a provider you don't know and who doesn't list her prices/services in her ad?

    BTW, I had no idea you could search phone numbers through Facebook. I can't stand social media but I think it's a good idea to get a fake FB account for number searches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyfriend33 View Post
    By the way... I had nothing to worry about, and she was WONDERFUL. I couldn't have picked any better.
    Woohoo!

    Glad you took the chance and had a good time. Lots of helpful advice in this thread.

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    Default Newbie

    I'm new to this, as well. Have some questions. Like what to expect from a screening (or background info needed from a new hobbyist like myself). Also, I responded to an ad I was interested in, (well-reviewed, did a search engine of phone number, seems legit, etc.) by texting/emailing basic info, but have not heard back. Don't want to seem pushy. Should I just call? Or move on?

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    NEVER.. I repeat NEVER bring more to the incall that the agreed to donation. Leave your wallet in the car, get a hide a key or take JUST that one key...

    That said if the donation is not listed. I just text. A simple inocuous text asking if she is able to meet up at X. then ask how much is the H or HH. Asking services is another story, often they wont get into that.


    Quote Originally Posted by COtx View Post
    If you don't mind me piggy backing on this thread I'd like to ask on what to do when seeing a provider who doesn't advertise prices and services in her ad.

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    I'm a newbie and the info in this post is amazing.

    Dumb question but what tends to be the diff between hh and hr, other then time, regarding the services provided? For example, I'd they don't post the rates and I text for that info and respond I want hr vs hh, what does the other person think immediately?

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    MOST IMPORTANT: create a hobby persona. Get a tossable phone, google voice (and set it up correctly) and a hobby email address.(do not put your real name on the account) Keep all of your personal stuff, personal. Don't get sappy and tell the girl everything under the sun. IT WILL BITE YOU...
    This is the most important thing. Do not think that you will become a 'true friend' to this girl because you are the only 'nice guy' she's seen. There are a lot of 'nice guys' around, more than you can imagine, she probably has one paying a bill or something already.

    You came there to have fun, then leave. Having fun can be having a conversation, so make shit up, make that part of the fun. Don't leave anything of yours behind, including things you cannot get back, like your name, your information.

    Yes, some guys have dated escorts for real, that didn't happen after one or two dates.

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    Default your making this tooo hard

    Everyone has some good advice, but we are escorts/providers.
    We each choose to place ads for many different reasons, thus giving you an indistinguishable variety to choose from. Please remember we still deserve respect, we are still human beings, not objects.
    In the real world, if a female was going out on a date with a man & vice/versa, she would not even go to dinner with a man she doesn't even know his name. There are always rare instances when ya run into someone in the parking lot & there's a connection & ya go for coffee. But my point here, is the fact you are calling an escort- you plan to meet her,alone,in a hotel room or wherever for an hour of fun. Why do you feel any escort out there should have no problem doing this & not wanting to know something about you so that she feels safe?
    What irritates me the most- is that most of you are wanting her to do things that are illegal, risking her livelihood- so comply with her screening or move onto someone else. Always bring an extra 20-50 to give for a tip, keep your wallet in your car, but if you are seeing a professional, you shouldn't have to worry (I had a guy who forgot his wallet, I found it an hour later & called to let him kno- never opened it, he then tipped me cuz he had 100 bill tucked in it- I didn't need him to give me a tip, Id have done the same with anyone's belongings)
    While the following statements might be good advice for Hosscartwright-
    advice is like an asshole( but it is good to always listen to others experiences & what they have to say- but it's not for every occassion).
    #1 - BP is full of scamers and fake photos. Someone mentioned google images. DO IT. IT will save your bacon often.
    (Tineye is another good site to use to check pics- Do not ever expect a girl to send a face pic, especially if you aren't fully screened-& then it's still a bad idea for a girl to send out her pics. Asking if the girl's pics are real or hers-is just dumb, if the pics arent hers do you really believe she is going to tell you? It jus lets her know you are clueless or LE.)
    I'm not going to get into the many many many reasons of why a girl shouldn't send a pic to a guy. They are tooo numerous to mention
    #2- Google the phone number. You'd be surprised how many girls change ad, change pics yet use the same number.
    (We change ads for marketting & update our pics/ maybe we have an ad focusing on our big breasts or an ad focusing on our specialties- this is to get the attention of different guys it's called marketing)
    This is important, maybe we have placed an ad out there, just to help us catch some game players- I admit I've done it & caught some guys, by posting a different ad usin dif pics & age we can catch guys going thru setting up fake appts., in fact jus recently caught a guy setting an appt. with my fake ad & my real ad for the same time (I calld another girl & he had set the appt. with her too)- he didn't kno I was the same person, he had the same story when calling both ads, the second call I got frm the guy & realized he didn't kno he was talking to me, I just started bullshitting with him telling him I do appts for 50buxs if he comes now & blah blah blah, he didnt show to either appt- I wanted to know what & why was the purpose of his call, why did he set the appt? why did he want to kno my location?....I'm not a game player, but we do have to protect ourselves- le does call & does set appts with girls, as well as stalkers, wives, & dangerous guys...So there are times that you will find us with more than one ad out there, it doesn't mean there's anything wrong or odd or fishy).....

    #3- Log into facebook, search the phone number. You'd be surprised how many girls can be found that way. AND how many pimps can be found the same way....
    (why do you have to know who we really are? We have review sites to monitor us & pass on info. about us/ you dnt want us to kno things about your real life-pls keep our private life private as well)

    #4- as far as providers go, if you do the above, you should come up with multiple ads for the same lady across numerous ad/review sites. If you do not, be weary. Either she's knew, hiding a past or just a new phone.
    (Nothing wrong with a new phone & new phone number, phones come up missing & a girl should change her number, maybe once a year- we deal with alot of unbalanced individuals, calls all hours of the night, & sometimes guys aren't so discreet about that hobby phone of theirs & they let it get compromised or a wife stumbles across it/// & we were all new once- & we've all dealt with stalkers making us change numbers,identities, things aren't always a bad thing)

    MOST IMPORTANT: create a hobby persona. Get a tossable phone, google voice (and set it up correctly) and a hobby email address.(do not put your real name on the account) Keep all of your personal stuff, personal. Don't get sappy and tell the girl everything under the sun. IT WILL BITE YOU...

    (If the girl finds that you are using a google # with a fake name, you may end up wasting your money,as she will think you are le & your appt. will be a nice flirty dance) Alot of girls have found that guys hiding who they are & refusing to give references are bad guys, they are the ones, who short the envelope, try to grab the money & run out the door after the session, try to walk in the door & just start going at it & then rush out when askd for the donation, get violent, try to force bb, the list of bad stuff goes on- this is why many girls have a guy outside the door, or in the parking lot to catch the guy if this happens- you would be surprised how many guys 55 & over who drive up in their mercedes & have played those games- The really sad thing, I've heard from 2 different girls this summer whose regulars have done one of the above mentioned. ALWAYS LAY YOUR DONATION DOWN WITHIN THE 1ST FEW MINUTES OF ARRIVING-DONT TALK ABOUT IT! THIS BS ABOUT YOU WANTING TO MAKE SURE YOUR GOING TO GET WHAT YOU WANT-THAT'S NOT COOL, & SHE WONT GIVE YOU HER BEST, SO YOUR RUINING IT FOR YOURSELF, IF YOUR UNCOMFORTABLE JUS LAY IT DOWN IN AN OBVIOUS PLACE SO SHE CAN QUICKLY COUNT IT

    (If you don't want to be screened or give up any of your information, or if you think your being discreet by using a google phone number (she will be able to tell)- then don't go writing a bad review or spreading around that you got ripped off, an escort doesn't have to do anything illegal. If she thinks you are le, she isn't going to cross those lines & why do you feel she has to?
    If you pick a professional provider you don't have to worry about your information, we really dn't care, we just want to know we will be safe seeing you- We all have many clients who come to see us, jus so they can share in private what their personal behind closed doors life is like, they want to be comforted & know if any other guy's home life is like that too. Share what you feel comfortable, it's your hour- A professional isn't going to show up at your job making a scene.)


    As far as LE is concerned. Don't fool yourself, if you get caught in the room with a hooker, you are going to be cited or arrested. Regardless of how careful you are. Always show to the incall early enough to park and watch the surroundings. LE is after the multiple offenses they can find. i.e. do not see girls who "party" and take drugs as part of the payment. If a girl gives you her address right out the gate, be wary..
    (This right here is just outright bull- When le is doing their stings, no girl/guy is safe from it & all girls who have an ad will get called when they go down the list, that's one reason why we screen ya. Not everyone gets cited or arrested....
    You can go see an escort, we are alowed to strip tease & dance, we can talk about your deepest darkest fantasy- it's not legal to exchange anytype of sexual services for money not even abbreviated sexual inuendos via text for money- So dnt do it, dnt ask her how much is greek,an island trip,or if ya jus want a bj, Don't do it! Yes she is an escort- So don't go asking how much is any sexual service.
    And if you have seen her before- Definetly don't go asking, especially via text how much is greek or back door- she will immediatly think you jus got busted & are sitting there with le flipping on her to save yourself.
    And never send a text to a girl that you've seen before- out of the blue, no matter what time of day- hey we've met, I'm the guy that you #@%# (insert sexual services) She will block your number, thinking that le has confiscated your phone & is using it to set up dates for a sting.
    We aren't sitting 24/7 alone starring at a wall- Our phones are with us, we have regulars & we want to take new callers as well- So dn't say or text anything explicit ever, not even in text, it's rude & disrespectful & calling us a whore & pointing out that we have an ad on an escort site still doesn't give you the right to put anything illegal on our phone.
    So you use a hobby phone, not registered to you- but you then text us explicit abbreviations asking how much- Welp what if that one text mistakenly doesn't get deleted or what if someone jus happens to pick up our phone? That one little text can be the one little thing used for probable cause, or if we replied to it, that's one charge in itself (our texts can be subpeona) & you aren't screened- so why are you trying to set us up?

    It's not complicated to set an appointment & have a safe fun time. I actually believe that alot of the guys who complain they got ripped off or said they were in a bad situation, have brought it onto theirself. Sometimes girls will get tired when they get 6 & 7 calls in row with a guy asking for sexual services over the phone when they refuse to be screened- so they go ahead & set the appt. but the guy shows up & she takes the money & only gives them a fun little strip dance. Cuz she thinks you are le.
    I don't approve of the girls who rip off the guys or blatantly take the money & run- but after so many rude disrespectful calls in a day (especially when I've been nice & tried to educate the guys on what not to say & they call me a paranoid bitch & say they dnt need a lecture), I can see these guys only getting an appt. with a girl who decides, ok, your going to disrespect me & my phone(all ads say no explicit talk) so they set the appt. with the guy & disrespect him right back.
    Also remember we may have a second ad out there, just to catch the dude who is calling 10girls that day just to be an ass asking explicit questions, so when you do get around to setting an appt. your phone number is already on the do not see list.
    Don't show up early & sit in the parking lot, it draws attention to you.
    Don't go driving around the building, if it's a sting, le will park about 2 blocks away. If it's a hotel, they will park a cpl buildings over, not in the same p.lot, cuz they don't want attention nor for you to see them when your pulling in. But if you have picked a professional provider, or one that has been posting for more than a cpl of days, then you won't have to worry about a sting.
    When you drive around the hotel parking lot, then sit for 15mins, then walk to an escorts room- you just got the attention of the hotel staff, so you will be fine that day- but the next dude to come that day, he will be watched as well as her room-so you jus blew her location. So just please don't do it.

    And if ya find an ad that doesn't have the rates in it, if you are new- move on to the next one. I don't understand why a girl wouldnt put her rates in the ad, unless she is on a site that doesn't alow it.
    Good luck everyone, Have fun, but use your common sense.

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    Default Sorry my previous post is sloppy

    I was trying to debunk Hosscarights points, because there are many reasons behind the things we do & all of it isn't bad or for shady reasons.

    Bad things do happen, there are girls who have stolen from clients-I don't think it has happened very often & sometimes I believe it is the girl jus getting back at the guy for wasting her time- you guys just don't realize how many guys just really mess with us. Or how dumb they are, I've had several guys not be able to get an appt. with me (usually cuz they textd asking for some sexual service or textd trying to haggle me down & end up cussing me) Then 3mths later they text for an appt. again, & the same thing happens. I actually have a list of 7 different guys who all did the same thing & finally I let one have an appt. (I didn't have my dns list with me to check it). He showed up during his work day in a suit, acted decent enough, called a week later set the appt. & then shorted the money- which he tried leaving the amount he had textd in his prior contact with me when he was haggleling & I said no. I do not ever feel it is ok for the girl to steal- but when I hear the stories, I really wonder what the guy did before he actually saw her.
    Also guys rip off the girls too- it happens more than you may think, we always have to be on our toes- & those guys are the ones ruining it for the good guys.
    The bad dates,scams,rip-offs don't happen that often but when they do, I honestly think it's when the guys have done stupid things, but then there's always jus someone out with an ad jus to rip off guys.
    Yesterday 02:48 AM
    Madjamison I'm a newbie and the info in this post is amazing.

    Dumb question but what tends to be the diff between hh and hr, other then time, regarding the services provided? For example, I'd they don't post the rates and I text for that info and respond I want hr vs hh, what does the other person think immediately?


    Honestly we think you are cheap.
    Your question isn't dumb, it's a very valid one & deserves to be answered by a few different girls - cuz we all vary so much, in our services, our looks, our rates, our experience.....
    The difference can be so much depending on the girl. Some girls do hh & short stops- they are quick, in & out appts. They are rushed.
    Please dnt ever expect GFE when ya are getting a hh (unless youve already met)
    I feel the 1st appt. with a lady, you should pay for the whole hour. It's takes up our time to screen you & then it's still extra stress wondering the whole time if ya are safe to see (even le can pass screening).
    With an hour, ya have time to relax, & have a few mins getting a feel for one another.
    After I've met a client, if he seems like a person who can be in & out in hh, then I might offer it to him or say yes when he asks me for a 2nd visit for a hh.
    But that's just me personally cuz I offer true gfe & no rules, so my appts. are tailored for those who want a whole hour & I don't want to get in a habit of rushing a session cuz a guy wants everything he can get for as little as he can possibly spend- cuz with gfe, I really give all I can to please the man for this appt.
    After youve had a session with a lady, take a cpl mins & talk to her about it before you leave, if your jus in the mood to swing by for a quick bj, she may consider a discount-
    It's $60 for a stip dance tease that only last 3mins & you can't touch- IMO asking girls to do appts. for less than 100 is really disrespectful.

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    If all the SP's were like you represent yourself to be, things would be so much different. On the average, the range of experience is so diverse that we hobbyists need to have our own screening process as well. As such, it will often take 2 to 3 appointments with an SP before we feel we know her well enough to relax. On the point of short visits vs longer ones, there are so many SP's getting paid for an hour, and pushing guys out the door in 15 minutes, that you can't blame a guy for taking the stand that a first visit is always going to be a short visit and if it seems worth repeating, booking a longer one will be a good idea. After all, if a guy is going to buy an hour and get a "one and done" from the SP, why would he ever consider buying an hour ever again, much less a 2 hour appointment?

    Some ladies seem short sighted on this point.

    I once had a laughable situation with an SP. We discussed things, arrived at an agreement on time place and compensation. We met up and things went great. I asked her if I could see her again some time, and she said yes, she would love to see me again soon. I walked out the door, went to my car, called her back and said, "are you free?" she said yes, I said "Is now too soon to come back?" she said no, and I went back in and we repeated. Afterwards, she said, Why did you do that? I asked, would I have been one and done, or got two if I had gone and given you everything up front? She said, well, it is one to a customer, and I said, Ok, so now you understand why it makes more sense for me to be two customers, rather than one. She laughed, and said, ok, in future we don't have to play that game.

    On the other hand, I have met SP's who from the beginning just do what ever for the duration of the time purchased, and don't give you any incentive to go short in order to get the value for your money. After all, how many 15 minute hours do you want to buy?

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